Episode Discussion

[keeper-of-stars.livejournal.com]

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Comments

[dali-muse.livejournal.com]

LOL at Jujubee reading everyone in her confessionals/interviews. Good to see Manila not taking critiques personally and turning them into something to laugh about. She was more funny on the runway than during the episode.

So sad when they mentioned Sahara though.

[entj.livejournal.com]

In my opinion, that was the most moving Untucked ever. Latrice's story broke my heart. She has overcome so much to get where she is, and it took so much courage for Jerry and Chad to do that.

For me, it was a tie between Nina Flowers and Chad Michaels for best runway look on this week's Drag Race. If someone were about to poke me in the eye with a makeup brush, I might give the edge to Nina. I'm really going to miss her: Nina is one of my favorites.

I could've seen Chad as Joan Crawford and Shannel as Bette Davis. Chad does a great Joan (http://queermagnet.com/qmw/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/0154.jpg). I really liked Manila's Madonna - she had the facial gestures dead-on.

You know, I respect Tammie for being who she is, and she ain't afraid to read anybody whether it is in her best interest to do so or not. I was also really happy with the lipsync: I much prefer to see two queens at the top of their game where Ru has to pick the best of the best, rather than one queen winning because the other faltered. Both Latrice and Tammie were terrific, I thought.

If Latrice and Chad ever have to lipsync against one another, I think the stage under them will flee in terror. :)

I'm kind of feeling like Juju and Raven are in Safeland right now. I'd like to see them take it to the next level.

Overall, while I'm still not crazy about the team idea, I liked this episode much better than the first one, and I look forward to next week.

[emily-goddess.livejournal.com]

I wish I knew how to edit video, because I want to take this Untucked, and every other scene in the show where the contestants are talking about being bullied or beaten up or rejected by their families, put it all together and spam it all over the Internet. Maybe if the people who whine about "OMG teh gays!!1!" could see the actual people and actual pain they're living with because of shit like that, they'd tone it down a bit.

/unfunny

[entj.livejournal.com]

I so hear you on that. I think that it was a good thing for many viewers to see that bridge being built between Chad and his father, and that just because relationships aren't working today doesn't mean that they're doomed forever. I thought it was a very positive, hopeful moment.

I wish empathy pills existed. I'd be very tempted to slip some into some people's drinks.

[chungguksaram.livejournal.com]

"If Latrice and Chad ever have to lipsync against one another, I think the stage under them will flee in terror. :)"

Didn't they already lipsync together last season?

[entj.livejournal.com]

You know, you're right! Good catch!

I guess I forgot about that because, to me, it seemed like an obligatory lipsync rather than a real one. I vaguely remember that there was some controversy one year, might've been the first one ... I think some fans pointed out that Nina Flowers had never been in the bottom two during S1 while Bebe had, yet Bebe won. Something like that?

Anyway, since then, it seems like every queen has had to lipsync at least once per season, and it seemed to me (just my opinion) that for Episode 11, Chad didn't truly deserve to be in the bottom two, but she hadn't lipsynched yet, so I sort of felt like RPDR was covering itself from potential S1 criticism in that regard.

Nevertheless, you are quite correct. It has happened, and the floor didn't roll up. Mind, it had already survived Willam puking on it, so perhaps it was resigned to its fate at that point. ;)

[entj.livejournal.com]

This is strange: I just got a message from LJ saying: "According to this community's settings, your comment was marked as spam." Eh?

[amor-remanet.livejournal.com]

I think that just happens when you have links in your comments. I know I've seen it happen in a few other comms, as well, at least.

[keeper-of-stars.livejournal.com]

Sorry about that! I un-screened your comment. That happens from time to time.

[xbenji65.livejournal.com]

I'm glad Tammie lipsync'd, she was able to redeem herself from her season when she just stood there.

[anansie-s.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I adore Latrice, but I sort of feel like Tammie lipsynced better.

[pharna.livejournal.com]

Tammie Brown was born to lip-synch that song.

[emily-goddess.livejournal.com]

Yes, and she got a song that was perfect for her. At least she got to end on a high note this time.

[anansie-s.livejournal.com]

http://www.putlocker.com/file/B19D9F8365D3EB50# <-- The Episode

http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/RuPaul-s-All-Stars-Drag-Race_32563/ <-- Which can usually be found here.

[loveledusastray.livejournal.com]

yay thank you for the link!

[anansie-s.livejournal.com]

I can't believe Nina is gone again :(

Tammie's runway look and mug were gorgeous.

WHY RU, WHY!

[daphne-gateau.livejournal.com]

I have to admit the teams do up the viewer tension. This episode I could not get a handle on who might be in the bottom and it seems like no matter what team goes I will be bummed.

[ian-exclamation.livejournal.com]

I think that Manila is a bit annoying usually, but she was alright this episode. I agree at how sad it was when they mentioned Sahara :(

I really liked everyone's runway look. I love Alexis Mateo but girl that Shakira was dullll. I'm glad they won because of Charro Sofia. I wasn't really digging Brown Flowers' runway look and I think their performance in the Gaff In was meh at best. Tammie Brown is weird and crazy but I liked her. I'm sad to see both of them go.

Also, the Untucked was pretty emotional!

[pharna.livejournal.com]

Wow. Tammie Brown, reading people. I figured Tammie was too nuts to go about reading people and to channel negative energy into something fun and wacky. That's a quality I hope Tammie Brown never ever loses.

God, the LSfoL had me on edge. Tammie was giving Latrice a real run for her money, putting on an amazing show.

The mini-challenge? OMG. Are Jujubee and Raven...ya know...sleeping together? The editing made me think they got a perfect score. :O
I doubt their respective mom's know them as well as they know each other. The Devil Wears Nada. LOLOLOLOL, and you guys said you can't write jokes?!

[dali-muse.livejournal.com]

Well, after one season of Drag Race and three seasons of Drag U, the deck is very stacked in their favor. The only one who might come close with a similar relationship is Chad Michaels and Shannel.

[xbenji65.livejournal.com]

Lol I seriously doubt they are sleeping together. They're just really good friends.
They both have boyfriends. Juju being with his man Chris since before season 2.

[kapvik.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I may never complain about how queens suck more and more at Snatch Game every year. Because that was just sad, especially considering it's an All-Star cast. I was surprised at how unfunny everyone was. Even the bits with Ru and Mama were corny and fell flat.

There were no winning teams tonight, just individuals. I did enjoy Yara's Charo and I get why she basically won the challenge, but it is interesting to see such an off-color impersonation get the win, considering that Charo has been on the show before. I think this is the first time this has happened.

I think Michelle Visage needs to give Shannel a break; I thought her Lucy was pretty good. It's hard to do anything but the iconic crying when you don't have anyone else from I Love Lucy to riff off of.

I suppose Chad's Bette Davis was good, but for me it was a lot like Nina's La Lupe - I don't know enough about the original to appreciate the impression. It was a little one-note. And Nina...too bad she was on the show before funny was really a requirement. Nina is nice and doesn't really know how to say no, but she's never had to be funny before.

Poor Jujubee will never look like anyone except sort-of Kimora Lee Simmons. Wasn't feeling the Fran Drescher impression either. And Raven was just bummed-out Raven dressed as Bea Arthur. She had several opportunities to riff off some classic BA, and she didn't take them. Like the pie gag with the Pit Crew, for heaven's sakes. That would have been a perfect opportunity for Raven/Bea to pull out Maude: "God'll get you for that, Pit Crew!"

The look of Madonna was there for Manila, which is a plus because I honestly didn't think she could pull it off. But honestly the funniest thing about Madonna was Vicki Lawrence saying that she was full of shit. Latrice's Oprah was just Latrice; I wonder if maybe it wouldn't have been funnier with props a la Oprah's Favorite Things. I was thinking that she should have run with Ru's throwaway line suggestion of being Paula Deen, but Paula Deen is pretty one-note too. And Latrice probably wouldn't be comfortable doing fat/fatty food jokes, given her dust-up with Santino last cycle.

But for the most part Santino was right, and I fucking hate admitting that Santino can be right about anything. No one was really funny; in fact, the funniest bits were the queens fucking up their timing. The only joke that actually stayed with me was Shakira, Charo, and the bag of cocaine and possibly a ham sandwich.

You know, I used to have a little sympathy for Tammie Brown in season 1, since she was clearly so unprepared to be judged in a competition. But it's gone now. Clearly the only thing Tammie Brown is good at is being Tammie Brown, and if you want something else then it sucks to be you. The only reason she's so rah-rah-individualism is because she has nothing else to offer. It's all the same crazy Tammie Brown old Hollywood grimace-face, wincing around the place on unsteady legs, and non-sequiturs because bitch won't listen. This is not a failure to recognize the wondrous individual; it is a failure on the wondrous individual's part to motherfucking follow instructions. Because if Tammie Brown doesn't fucking feel like it, she's just not going to do it.

And really? You call that a lip sync performance? Tammie Brown was "watermelon cantaloupe peas and carrots"-ing almost every line in that song. And it's not like she got contemporary R&B or a club banger this time around - Ru threw her Ethel Merman, for crying out loud. And she still just wobbled around the stage in her Tammie Brown way, wincing away doing Conan O'Brien's nutcracker-mouthed impression of Mitt Romney. Because Tammie Brown cannot perform in any way that does not involve just being Tammie Brown. I can't believe I'm saying this, but *Mimi* deserved to be on here more than Tammie!

[lucifuge-5.livejournal.com]

This was such a mixed bag episode for me. The drag queen newlywed game was LOLarious. It was fairly obvious that the majority of the teams got along--to the point of being able to crack up even when the answers didn't match. I...don't really know what was going on with Team Brown Flowers. Could be that Tammie decided to take a train to Bizarre Humour City because her answers didn't make much sense.

Mama Ru's Gaff-In was quite unfunny. Some of the queens did a great impersonations (Shannel, Manila and Jujubee) and some really didn't (Raven, Tammie and Yara Sofia). The one true disappointment was Latrice. Her Oprah was really lacking. :( I think Maya Angelou would've been better or really anyone else!

In regards to Brown Flowers' oust, well, Tammie said she was going to do what she felt like doing and Nina lacked that zing she had during her season. It made me sad to see Nina go but, in some ways, it felt inevitable. In all truth, I couldn't see Tammie winning All-Stars.

Which brings me to something I was thinking about as the episode came to an end: there's only one space next to Mama Ru on the Legendary!Wall of fame. Could it be that the last two queens, a.k.a. the winning team, will have to LSFYL or otherwise battle each other so that one of them can get their pic next to Ru? O_O!

[i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com]

I've been sure from the beginning that the winning team will be the team set up against each other. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like just the "twist" that Ru would do.

[lucifuge-5.livejournal.com]

It didn't occur to me until I was looking at Nina and Tammie take their photos off the wall. I totes agree, btw. Pitting the last two remaining queens most deffo sounds like something Ru would do. In all truth, I don't know who I'd root for if Team Latrila made it to the end. O_o!

[entj.livejournal.com]

Well, the ads have been saying from the beginning, "Who will be crowned the queen of all queens?" rather than "The team of all teams?" so I'm guessing that at some point, it's gonna go all Highlander. :D