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Date: 2011-02-15 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebmich.livejournal.com
Can't watch it live (damn time zones), but I am hoping for eithe India, Shangela, Mariah, Stacy, or Delta go home. Since this challenge requires charm and personality, I think Carmen and India will easily be the bottom two.

Date: 2011-02-15 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chedderpepper.livejournal.com
Does anyone know where this episode is streaming?

Date: 2011-02-15 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] as-----------is.livejournal.com
+ I loved that Manila WENT THERE!
+ Raja's runway always leaves me DEAD but I'm wishing she'd have as much talent in the challenges as she does on the runway... she'd take home the trophy for sure! Her look left me absolutely, just... GASPING FOR BREATH!
+ Psyched about Amber Rose being a guest judge next week.
+ Chloe Sevigny is really REALLY useless.
+ Stacey Lane Matthews keeps getting the pity vote in my opinion, but granted she's doing good considering she's 300lbs and the only place she can buy close in Back Swamp NC is Wal-Mart. Still, there's some type of pity vote going on there I don't think she'll last another week.
+ Mariah's boring me to death.
+ Did I mention that Raja's runway left me gasping!?!?
+ Carmen's crotch looked like some really blurred out believable-ness during the mini challenge.
+ I loved the little lesbian bit between Delta and Raja, but I think it should've been executed better... and slower, but there's time restrictions AH KNOW.
+ Delta's right when she said Yara's giving them the same character.... which is great, she has a character. But it seems like all the Latinas give them that similar vibe [Jessica Wild?] I like Alexis for not giving them AS MUCH of that.
+ Loving Shangela's personality.
+ I was blogged about on the WOW report ages ago, so it made me really happy they plugged it for a second hahah.

Date: 2011-02-15 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keeper-of-stars.livejournal.com
+ MANILA. YES. LOVEDLOVELOVE IT.
+ Agreed. Raja is all face. I want the personality to back it up.
+ LOL, Chloe bored me to tears. And since when is she a fashion icon? She's a hot mess 90% of the time.
+ Meh, I don't think she buys her clothes at Wal-mart. If she does, I want to know why my Wal-mart doesn't carry anything like that. :-P Really though... She's a doll. But she needs to step it up!
+ Mariah looks... old. I'm not trying to be agesit. It's how she does her makeup. It's not fresh and clean at all. She dressed much older than she really is.
+ I adored Delta. Until I saw Untucked that is. She's had an attitude overhaul since last week.

Date: 2011-02-15 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] as-----------is.livejournal.com
Delta was PMSing or something!!! I was surprised... and I kind of loved it.

Raja has some degree of personality but the main chunk of it is just reading "Bitch" to me. And like she looks like she'd be fun to have lunch with [my dream!], but as a queen she's lacking an overall personality...? If that makes any sense? There's no drag personality there! I WANT HER TO WIN SO BAD!!!

Manila's not giving a crazy amount of personality either but she's doing REALLY well. Total straight A student! I loved the pineapple, A LOT! But not as much as Raja's runway.

And maybe Stacey Lane be ordering stuffs off the internet?

Mariah does look old... like she dresses like a mom or something? The blue velvet dress reminded me of an Anastasia Barbie I had when I was a kid.

Alexis Mateo's growing on me. I didn't like her in the beginning but each episode I'm slowly liking her more and more.

Chloe is definitely a more entertaining fashion icon. She aint no Posh Spice!!
I love the YouTube skits making fun of her:

Date: 2011-02-15 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keeper-of-stars.livejournal.com
UGH, maybe that was it. And after her poor me stuff last week, I was not loving it. (And I love me some snarky queens. Hello, Raven!). But Delta just rubbed me the wrong way tonight. Like, where did this over confidence come from all of a sudden?

I totally think Raja would be fun to sit and chat with. She definitley has that. But I don't think she puts anything into the challenges character wise. It's always just Raja. Nothing more. I don't know if she'll win, but I definitley think she'll be top 3.

Oh, I think Manila gives a lot of personality in drag. Out of drag? Not so much. But that's not really important. At the least, Manila gives different persoanlities to the different challenges. Tweaker, fitness!Manila and Anchorwoman!Manila are all very different. There's some range there. LOVED the pineapple as well! It was fun and whimsical while still being pretty. (Why yes, I am rooting for Manila. :P )

I would bet Stacey does online shopping. That or she has someone nearby who does custom work. I really did love her look tonight.

Yes, Mariah dresses WAY older than she is. She looks soooo much younger out of drag. It's all about the styling. The velet was to heavy and there was to much dress. She should have lost the horn things, and gave the skirt a sexy slit. That would have made it so much better. HAHA, that totally was a Barbie dress.

I'm starting to fall for Alexis Mateo as well. She seems sweeter now that in the premiere.

Ugh, I can't stand Chloe's clothes. I can only think of one or two times where she's looked decent. She always looks so frumpy and dowdy to me.

Date: 2011-02-15 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] as-----------is.livejournal.com
You're right about Manila's versatile personalities! I forgot about Tweaker, oops?
I honestly think she won the race too!

Chloe's always giving HOT MESS REALNESS! All the time!

Date: 2011-02-15 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keeper-of-stars.livejournal.com
Tweaker was hysterical. It reminded me so much of Jessica's chicken. I loved it.

Won? What race? Not the season... I don't want to be spoiled! (I'm a spoilerphobe.)

HAHAHAHAHA, this is very true.

Date: 2011-02-15 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] as-----------is.livejournal.com
I said I THINK Manila won.... chill! hahah!

Date: 2011-02-15 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keeper-of-stars.livejournal.com
Sorry, can't help it! I want to be suprised!

Date: 2011-02-15 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anansie-s.livejournal.com
Manila was hilarious. I can't wait for the snatch game episode where it seems she does Imelda Marcos. (Also, it's weird that they didn't show the judges reactions to Manila and Raja's runway looks -- they were clearly the best).

But it seems like all the Latinas give them that similar vibe [Jessica Wild?] I like Alexis for not giving them AS MUCH of that.

Of course it's a matter of opinion, but I wouldn't really agree with this, because I think it's more of a language issue that gets percieved as personality. And Ru seems to encourage some of the PR queens to play up their Spanish, I think, to make their lack of English skills less of an impediment. Alexis and Nina live on the continental US (Alexis lives in Florida), so their English is naturally better than Jessica's and Yara's.

Speaking of which I love that Ru has incorporated "Escandalo" into his repertoire of catch-phrases!

Date: 2011-02-15 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keeper-of-stars.livejournal.com
That would be amazing, but I'm not sure. I really do like the "permenant" judges they have right now though.

Date: 2011-02-15 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anansie-s.livejournal.com
I really like Billy B. so far. He's got useful things to say. But as far as I know, Santino's still a judge.

Date: 2011-02-15 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetnessarose.livejournal.com
That wouldn't be so bad, I guess (I like him but he only seems to comment about fashion), but why would they switch him out midseason? That's kind of weird.

Date: 2011-02-15 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifeofgatsby.livejournal.com
I'm starting to like Yara Sofia for some reason. Maybe it's just because I think she's pretty~~

After watching Untucked, my indifference towards Delta has turned to dislike. She doesn't have enough talent to back up the bitchy attitude.

I loved the moment in Untucked during the Raja and Delta conversation, there was a pause and Raja says "I wonder if people talk about us in that way" and it showed the girls all quiet in the other room.

And Carmen calling Manila's pineapple purse a porcupine.

Date: 2011-02-15 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] as-----------is.livejournal.com
I loved Raja's face when every one walked in.

Date: 2011-02-15 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andika.livejournal.com
I can usually find it here soon after it airs: http://forum.tvfreeload.org/ You have to register tho.

Date: 2011-02-15 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebmich.livejournal.com
- Raja was right on when she brought up Shangela's entitlement issues. But I think it is more Shangela just completely preachy when she starts one of her "Now let me tell you something.." talks.

- I loved Raja's run way look.

- I loved Delta's look, but not on her. Blame my fat-a-phobia.

- I think Delta and Stacy need to go. Delta has no confidence or personality outside of complaining and Stacy just doesn't do anything for me.

- Anyone else scared by the Absolut Cocktails commericals with the Season 2 queens? haha

- I didn't get why anyone would be offended by Manila's reporter job considering the circumstance.

- Mariah IS boring.

- And I think Raja will end up being misunderstood. I think she just wants to be around people who will challenge her. I also think her experience (she said she has over 20 years of experience) has made her harder on the lesser experienced people. I don't think it's a jealous thing, more like just a human nature thing.

Date: 2011-02-15 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] as-----------is.livejournal.com
I agree completely with the last part.

& Stacy plays the pity card too often. She's out of her league, not as a performer but just emotionally.

Date: 2011-02-15 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebmich.livejournal.com
Maybe that is why Stacy does nothing for me. Everyone but Raja it seems keeps going "Poor Stacy, she's not used to this kind of thing!" And Stacy's rebuttals just reenforce it. Of course Raja is gonna look like a bitch when she's the only one going "She needs to stuck it up or go."

Date: 2011-02-15 08:35 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-08 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purlewe.livejournal.com
A friend told me that Raja was on another reality show.. the hair stylist one? I don't know when.. but Raja definitely knows the inner workings of reality tv. So I think She is playing for the producers.. Not that I don't love her runway looks. LOVE THEM!!!

Date: 2011-02-15 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anansie-s.livejournal.com
I LIVED for Manila this episode, from the pineapple dress to the immigration jokes (which I didn't find offensive. I thought it was on par with the curing-heterosexuality joke, as far as stereotypes go). I didn't think Chloe S. got it right when she said her makeup was too much -- it's bright and fun and cute, and not traditionally draggy, which I love.

Raja's rococo/Marie Antoinette outfit was just awe-inspiring. So ornate and precise but also modern -- I don't know how she pulls these things off.

I'm liking Carmen more, partly because it's kind of funny that whenever she's in the workroom her entire crotch area has to be blurred out. Also, she owns a merkin.

And India actually seems kind of sweet -- but I thought Stacy did do better on the lipsync.

ugh

Date: 2011-02-15 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anansie-s.livejournal.com
... I wish I knew how to quit watching Untucked! It makes me less keen on people I previously liked.

Delta was being not just mean in her criticisms of Yara Sofia and Manila, but *wrong*.

Yara can't escape being labelled the Latina queen any more than Delta can escape being the plus-size one. To call Yara's performance a 'gimmick' is disrespectful and shallow. Also, she clearly said that she hates that the judges love Yara's Latin-ness -- but then stealthily tried to convince Yara that it would work against her if she kept 'doing' it. I'm glad Yara was having none of it.

I wonder if part of Delta's seeming anger towards Yara and Manila for having ethnicity on their side comes from something more personal. She's Mexican (as far as I know) but doesn't speak any Spanish --- so, I suspect it bothers her that she can't 'own' her heritage the way they do. Just saying.

Re: ugh

Date: 2011-02-15 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] as-----------is.livejournal.com
Carmen's body is the most feminine out of all the queens, but it didn't leave me gagging or anything.

Re: ugh

Date: 2011-02-16 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anansie-s.livejournal.com
Ya, totally. She made it about age when she was making Raja commisserate about how the others are younger which supposedly means they have better bodies -- but Delta's only 34, which is hardly that much older than the average. And even though Raja's the oldest she has arguably the best body, so. Pish.

Re: ugh

Date: 2011-02-16 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifeofgatsby.livejournal.com
Oh wow, I thought Delta was white or half-Asian or something.

Delta was a real bitch to Yara playing up the Latin queen. She wouldn't drop it. So damn rude.

Date: 2011-02-15 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetnessarose.livejournal.com
I'm wondering if anyone is officially on Team Stacy or Team Carmen or Team Mariah, etc. I see a lot of Raja and Manila and even Delta fans (I myself am on Team Raja and Team Manila), but I want to know if these queens are getting some love too.

I thought that the News cast this episode... kind of lacked something. :\ Maybe it's because I was comparing it to the Oprah challenge in s1.

Date: 2011-02-15 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anansie-s.livejournal.com
I'm on Teams Mariah and Yara! (and, yes, Raja and Manila). And halfway on Team Carmen :)

But I feel like Mariah's gotten a bit spooked, or something, because she hasn't been doing as great for the past little while. She's funnier out of drag than in drag.

And I agree about the Oprah challenge.

Date: 2011-02-16 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sir.livejournal.com
holy crap, i thought because stacy was getting all the screentime that she was going this episode

thank god, love that bitch
india was all tits

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