drag_race | SILENCE! We have a winner

So predictable it wasn't even funny. I wish Raven had won. :'(

Ohh is that Sonique in your icon?

Oh, and Raven looked pretty amazing in the finale - I'm still entranced by how 80s her 80s look was.

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I would've fallen over if Miss Mango had one, lol. That would've been glorious. :-)

As for the actually winner, feh. Yes, Tyra is gorgeous, but I don't know, she never.. clicked for me, you know? She either flatlined in the personality department or came off like a brat. Not to mention that I can't stand the blatant favoritism she was shown or the fact that it looks as though Ru is just picking queens that fit the same archetype as her. And I still think it was wrong that she won the bride challenge over Raven, who's dress was just perfection.

But ultimately the winner doesn't matter and even Ru knows that winning doesn't mean an instant shoot into superstardom. Plus, it's kinda obvious from the reactions of people when Jessica and Pandora left and the fact that Jujubee is up for a NewNowNext award, who the real stars of the season were.

I was more excited for the reunion anyhow. I absolutely loved the verbal bitchslap Pandora gave Santino. He totally had it coming. Also, that picture of Shangela is beautiful. Girl was straight up robbed.

/end rambling mess, sorry, lol.

Yeah, it was super predictable. But, in a way, I'm glad Tyra won. I'm still a die-hard Raven fan. She and Tyra were neck and neck, but Tyra's lipsync completely blew Raven's out of the water. That's the only reason I think Tyra deserved to win over Raven. Also, I'm glad Tyra turned her attitude around.

Also, I'm glad Tyra's son has a future now. I certainly hope she doesn't f*ck it up for him in the future!

tyra is fuckimg terrible

all she did was a jump down splits. it pisses me off how many shitty queens were saved in this competition by a splits

More people than ever now believe RDR is rigged, and I'm starting to believe them. Forget charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent. If this is any indication, what you really need to win this contest is runway, glamour, and the biggest sob story. Being tall, black, and willing to sabotage and physically assault the other contestants probably doesn't hurt your chances either, and the latter will probably even get you a shitload of perks.

In any case, Pandora is clearly the queen who benefited most from this season, while Tyra (much as I am loathe to agree with Raven) will probably never really become a drag superstar, no matter what she or RuPaul would have us believe. Someone on another board made an eerie prediction of what Tyra's Drag Race Tour performance would be: "Hi, I am Tyra Sanchez, the New Tyra and America's Next Drag Superstar. I love Beyonce. Now watch me walk up and down this stage for 10 minutes."

Raven didn't win and has been exposed as the nasty, jealous, mean-spirited bitch we all knew she was. Not that Raven cares or even shows the slightest amount of genuine remorse. Whatever, dicksack.

Tatianna got to have her much-deserved retaliation, and yet RuPaul urges her to become more thick-skinned. Leave the crack alone, Rupaul; that's what made you look like a hot mess on Project Runway and misjudge this entire competition.

Pandora really did deserve the consolation prize (I could have sworn there was cash involved in that when Nina won it; am I wrong?), but it's really a Fan Favorite award rather than "Miss Congeniality", otherwise Jessica should have gotten it. (Although some suspect that the reason Jessica got along with everyone is because she barely understood what they were all saying. :p )

Shut up, Morgan, you're still a mean little bitch and you did totally dress and act like a $2 skankwhoreslut most of the time. Don't try and turn it on Tatianna just because she pointed it out. And even then, neither of you said anything with half as much malice as Raven.

I love that Shangela brought her own Miss California Entertainer (or something) crown to show how much she's grown since she was eliminated, and that she created the cornsage. *AND* that she, as a native Texan, shredded Mystique's silly urban/mall country excuses. If she actually gets to come back for Cycle 3, I would not object.

If only RuPaul had had the good sense to throw the final two out and crown Nina Flowers instead. Ugh. I'm going to join the others in pretending the show was cancelled due to moral outrage after Jujubee was eliminated. I'm being generous here, because most of the people I've seen voicing the same feelings pretend the show was cancelled due to moral outrage after Pandora left, and sometimes after Tatianna if they're really trying to give this season a chance. Seriously, they're not looking for America's Next Drag Superstar anymore. Clearly, they're looking for America's Next Top Drag Supermodel (which in hindsight Bebe also fits the bill for), and should reposition their messages thus.

And even with the win, Tyra is nowhere near the same class of queen as Bebe Zahara Benet.

Yep, I'm (after initially being upset) OK with the Tyra win. I thought it was funny that that she told the judges that she'd show her son the show. I hope they skip the episode in which Sahara called her 'satan's baby' (partly because Tyra deserved that, at the time).

I think splits should be banned.

Tyra was the more boring of the final 3. Thank you for pointing out that Ru only picks people who look similar to her!! I've always thought that, but I never wanted to say it, because it sounded whiny. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that! There were episodes where I felt that Tyra's hair was just Ru's hair, but brown. Talk about lack of uniqueness!!

I honestly don't feel like Pandora said enough to Santino. He robbed her. I hope that Ru gets rid of him next season and replaces him with someone who has a more balanced opinion. But at least she won the Congeniality award!!!

co-fucking-signed

wow, you seem really angry towards raven, despite the fact that she fucking apologized during the reunion to tatianna... tati talked as much shit about the other queens (if not more), yet it was ok for her to say those things and not for raven to say them?

I'm not "angry" at Raven - none of her shit was directed at me personally, so that would be a little ludicrous. I'm disappointed in her as a person because of her behavior. As was said, she took many an opportunity to trash pretty much every other queen in the competition, simply because she could. Meanwhile, I have yet to see Tatianna trash anyone in a way that was not in response to being trashed by someone else or in the defense of someone else.

The difference is that Tatianna, Jujubee, Pandora, Sahara, et al trash-talked in response/defense to something. Raven's trash-talking, on the other hand, has always been on the attack. Ditto for Morgan, to a much lesser extent. Just because it's all bitching doesn't make it the same.

Yes, Raven's a bitch. But that's her personality, her character, her style, in the same way that Pandora's style is to be funny and a bit campy. I wish people would just lay off of Raven for being a bitch. of course she's unapologetic. She came into this competition with the persona of a cold, frosty bitch. Good for her for sticking to her guns!! But she did drop her persona a bit, especially for the Drag Mother competition. And she made friends.
In my opinion, if Raven values you, then you're worth being valued.

In my opinion, if Raven values you, then you're worth being valued.

You're entitled to your opinion, but 1) who the hell made Raven the arbiter of anyone's personal value, and 2) Raven is at best a dubious judge of character.

And where I come from, one can be a strong, dedicated individual without being a bitch who needs to take down others in order to make themselves feel better. "Hurt or be hurt" isn't really the way human society works - it's just how the people who bring society down work. That's not an admirable quality at all to me.

See, I don't think that's a whiny thing to say, because it seems like too much of a coincidence that two seasons in a row the winners are queens that share a similar stature, asthetic and presentation in fashion and performance as Ru when there are plenty of more deserving queens in the competition. I read a lot of the comments on the facebook fanpage for the show and plenty of people feel the same way. Unfortunately they tend to play the race card with it, which I don't agree with. I think it has to do with ego on Ru's part, which is all well good if that's the case. Just don't pretend that it's about finding the next drag superstar if all Ru wants to find is a queen just like her.

And as far as Pandora, hell yeah. She really deserved Miss Congeniality. I do wish she had dug into him more, too, but someone had to call him out on his horrible "style" and I'm so glad it was her. I completely agree that something needs to change as far as the judges. I mean, this isn't a modeling contest and that's how they seem to be treating it. Fashion is part of doing drag, yes, but compared to personality and being able to perform your ass off? It's a small one. I honestly think that Santino should be replaced with Kathy Griffin. She gets it.

You're both so right. RuPaul really does appear to be picking the queen who is the most similar to her: a statuesque supermodel-type, which Raven and Tyra both are. Talent has little to nothing to do with this year's win, unless you count looking good in clothes as a talent (which Santino apparently does, since he's used it as judging criteria several times).

I honestly think that Santino should be replaced with Kathy Griffin. She gets it.

*SO* on board with this. Santino and Merle both are fashion overkill, since fashion has so little to do with being an actual performing drag queen.

I honestly don't feel like Pandora said enough to Santino.

THANK YOU. Pandora was ridiculously nice, given some of the shit she took from him. She would have had license to insult his genealogy, his taste in friends, his work qualifications, his genital size, and whether or not he prefers Coke or Pepsi.

this was my first season watching Drag Race, and it left a bitter taste. I loved it up until the finale, where I learned this is actually a beauty pageant.

and those I'm not interested in.

Aw. Well, I hope that doesn't put you off watching the first season, if you'd planned to. The personalities were a lot sweeter in general, and I was so impressed -- at the time I thought it proved that reality tv *can* be done in a more dignified way, and still be compelling without people being shady.

That icon is amazing.

and willing to sabotage and physically assault the other contestants probably doesn't hurt your chances either, and the latter will probably even get you a shitload of perks.

That pissed me off royally. Forget the wigs and make-up (though that was certainly obnoxious), she really could've seriously hurt Juju and the fact that Ru didn't call her out on it and Tyra tried to giggle it off like it was nothing makes me more angry the more I think about it. I think that moment during the critique also made me mad, because I had flashbacks to last season's finale when Rebecca insulted the other girls and then tried to giggle and like it was so cute of her to do. It's not.

"Hi, I am Tyra Sanchez, the New Tyra and America's Next Drag Superstar. I love Beyonce. Now watch me walk up and down this stage for 10 minutes."

Lol! Sounds fairly accurate, I think. I'm planning on trying to see the tour in June and if that happens, I swear I'm walking out. Or throwing tomatoes.

I could have sworn there was cash involved in that when Nina won it; am I wrong?

I don't remember the exact amount of it, but yeah, I'm pretty sure they did give her money to spend during the Vegas trip that she won.

If she actually gets to come back for Cycle 3, I would not object.

Neither would I. Just from the little we got to see of her, I loved Shangela's personality and eagerness to learn and grow, etc. It would be cool if they gave her another go.

I'm going to join the others in pretending the show was cancelled due to moral outrage after Jujubee was eliminated.

Is it bad that I couldn't really muster up enough emotion to be outraged at Juju leaving? She's my number two girl this season, so you'd think I would've been really pissed as opposed to, "aw, that sucks." I think I was too emotionally burnt out by the eliminations of Jessica and Pandora that I just didn't have it in me.

Clearly, they're looking for America's Next Top Drag Supermodel (which in hindsight Bebe also fits the bill for), and should reposition their messages thus.

It really does seem that way, I wish they would just say it already. And though I'm not a fan of Bebe, per se (the wide eyes during her lipsyncs was off-putting, to say the least), I could deal with her winning, because at least she has the charisma, uniqueness, nerve, talent, as well as class and grace. Things that seemed missing from Tyra for the most part.

"The next drag superstar shouldn't be a lazy bitch."

AMEN, JUJU.

I cannot fucking believe Tyra won.

I will probably still watch it, but I admit this season definitely has put it on the backburner, where as before I was itching to watch. I'll just wait til I'm over the bitter feeling Ru left me with ;p

I haven't seen the reunion episode yet, I'll try to fit it in tonight. Yay, can't wait to see Pandora verbally bitchslap Santino. I'm so fascinated by Pandora's dress.

Shangela! She's got something about her manner that's very compelling and alive. I just want to sit and listen to her talk. (ETA: I just saw her 'cornsage' -- it is beautiful and I want one!)

But ultimately the winner doesn't matter and even Ru knows that winning doesn't mean an instant shoot into superstardom.

This is a good point. It can't be taken too seriously, and really, almost all of them have benefited from being contestants :)

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Shangela just has such a positive energy about her and that's contagious. That makes me wonder how different the show might've been had she stayed. And yes! The cornsage was genius, lol.

It can't be taken too seriously, and really, almost all of them have benefited from being contestants :)

Exactly. Though it is hard not to get emotionally invested and angry at times at some of the things that happen. But it's important to try to keep it in perspective, lol. It's good for all of them, I think. I know I'm definitely gonna keep an eye out for some of the girls and try to see them live and stuff. So, yeah, it can only be a good thing.

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