Anne Hathaway, eat your heart out!

[keeper-of-stars.livejournal.com]

Jinkx Monsoon (as Little Edie) recently sang "I Dreamead a Dream" live at the Drag Race "Battle of the Seasons." It's a great watch. I love seeing a queen who can sing live.

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[vermilionette.livejournal.com]

But nothing is comparable to Carmen strutting around naked. :P

[kapvik.livejournal.com]

If that's what one is into, I guess. But I expect more from my drag queens than just being able to entice tranny chasers.

[vermilionette.livejournal.com]

But Carmen is no longer a tranny, technically she is a woman now.

[kapvik.livejournal.com]

That doesn't affect the fact that most of Carmen's fans seem to be tranny chasers, because that's who her act is designed to go after. This was evident when she was actually on the show; her most vocal supporters were self-identified tranny chasers, while most of her detractors favored queens with performance talents.

[vermilionette.livejournal.com]

I guess you are right. Even after transitioning, there is no restriction that as a woman, they can't participate in drag shows or events anymore (and frankly speaking, the biggest support for them comes from the drag community, not from the biological women). Thus it enables them still to attract the attention of the so-called tranny chasers. I guess for these tranny chasers, there is no difference that even after transitioning a tranny is still a tranny, a queen is still a queen. Perhaps that's the case.

[keeper-of-stars.livejournal.com]

Not to butt in, but...

Even after transitioning, there is no restriction that as a woman, they can't participate in drag shows or events anymore...
Actually, some clubs do have very strict rules about this. If you watch Transtasia one of the contestants discusses wanting to have gender reassignment surgery, but she couldn't because she'd no longer be able to perform at her club. So she had to wait or quit. I'm not saying all clubs are like that, but some do have rules along those lines.

[vermilionette.livejournal.com]

Yes, also in my area. Even if the transitioned gets support from the drag community, sometimes it still even creates a fuss if the transitioned wants to join a drag show or event. This is a controversial issue that it even still creates debate in the drag community themselves.

[kapvik.livejournal.com]

Yes, and this also seems to be the unwritten rule for Drag Race. Which I suppose makes sense; if one is a transgender woman who has gone through surgery, that's not really drag anymore. It's more like Drag U - a woman dressing up like a drag queen.

[vermilionette.livejournal.com]

Ah, "transgender woman"! That's the term I was looking for but instead I just used "the transitioned". Sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker as I live outside US. FYI, I live in Indonesia and I have to download episodes of RPDR to watch every Tuesday night in my timezone. I'm not really familiar with the drag communities in US, but I think they are not that much different from the drag communities we have here. And I have to say perhaps the drag communities here are even more strict, or should I put it "conservative".

Transgender is still a rare case here, but if there is, it still raises some questions (for example, people even still argue whether they should be classified as "woman"). Not to mention the transgender, the drag communities sometimes still have issues with gay communities. For them, both are different, like oil and water, no matter how much we want to connect with them. For example, if there is a drag lipsync competition, gays are not allowed to participate, no matter how much we want to participate, as for them we only dress occasionally. But for gays, we don't see that much difference with them, we only want to have some fun and make connection with them. But they shut us out.

Now how do they treat the transgender? They are treated with respect. But if they want to participate in drag-specific events, it's still creates a fuss from the drag communities themselves (as they are not considered as drag queen anymore). But ideally, I think, there should be no restriction to limit them from participating because they once belonged to the same community (and to what community they should belong after transitioning if even the biological women question their status?) As you can see in that show at Gramercy Theatre where Jinkx and Carmen performed, Carmen was not excluded because she is already a transgender woman even though it was actually a drag show. Yet, perhaps that's how it goes, there is this unwritten rule for this case, same as what they have for RPDR. Perhaps that's how the convention goes.